Imam's Meeting
12-21-97 to 12-22-97 Chicago, IL

Imam W. D. Mohammed


I requested this meeting with you because I been wanting to address the Imams, well every Ramadan we hope to address the Imams we just haven't had the time its so cramped that we weren't able to do it.

But inshaa Allah we will one day soon I hope be able to arrange programs, my travels
and everything we can have meetings with the Imams, that can afford to meet with
us in some location or equally convenient we hope for those who live in different regions, areas of these United states.
And my reason for wanting to speak to you I want to keep you in touch with me, I don't want to get too far from what you know of me, cause that makes me uncomfortable. As I progress in my thinking, as I move into other areas of interest, or in activities, involvement, I like to keep you informed.

And most importantly to keep you informed of progress for the spirit of my ministry and the emphasis for my ministry. Emphasis are very important, you know. Sometimes we don't recognize change because we are hearing essentially the same message or the same language, but we have to be alert for changing emphases.
When I look at, I'm speaking to you this way because we have this history in common many of you here on the floor we wish you had seats, its not our choice we wish you had seats. So feel free to relax as much as you can don't feel you have to sit in a certain
position, be as comfortable as you can possibly make yourself.

I have a bad back you see I'm leaning and I'm not apologizing for it that back hurts so bad brother I don't have to apologize to anybody, I didn't quite mean it like that.
Yes, so change in emphasis. When we look at the leadership of our late leader Elijah Muhammad he never really even at the very end, he never with his own mouth said the teaching I first gave you is incorrect. But he sure enough changed the emphasis so that those teaching he gave us in the 30's and in the 40's were kind of put aside, by just a change of emphasis.
He started putting more emphasis, started addressing other issues and other concerns
and other points of attention or of interest. He started addressing them and by doing that late comers they saw a different a different Elijah Muhammad.

Yes, those who came in the late sixties, middle even early sixties they didn't see the Elijah Muhammad as we saw him, when I was a child a boy like my son here who came to assist brother John. We didn't see the leader that we saw in 1960 in the sixties, we saw a different leader, same man but a different leader.
How was he different? What came out of his mouth was different, not the spirit, the spirit was always the same. Elijah Muhammad may G'd give him paradise, he kept his same spirit his spirit didn't change, but his language changed.

There's a writer some of you all might be familiar with her I can't think of her name
right now I didn't have her in mind for this address I'm making to you; anyway she's a writer and I believer she's a Muslim, she is a Muslim. She's writing on Islam in America but it seems like its Islam in Africa America, in the African American community. Yes what's her first name again? Amina that's her name, thank you Amina McCloud so if you all don't know her name and maybe you're interested in getting this book you should write her name, Aminah I think Me Cloud, yeah.

And it was interesting how she treated the matter she treated it as language, the language method of Islam in America; and what she observed was that this language is undergoing change over the years that Islam has been in the African American community. Going all the way back the early thirties, I think she goes back to a little bit before that, in the late 29 the late 20's 27, 29.   I think she goes back that far maybe even farther, maybe she goes even further back, I can't recall.

What she shows is a language in motion a message in motion, or a language in motion that has been undergoing change and the change she describes or identifies that change as evolution, evolution and I have a similar observation.
I observed changes of emphasis the Hon. Elijah Muhammad never told us that Yacub history was something we should have never had, never, he always put importance on it. Even the late years of his life he put importance on Yacub's history; but he didn't want Yacub's history to be given out freely to people, in his late years.

He wanted us to see it in a different way, he said I think this Yacub's history is talking about this present time, that what he said, I think its talking about I think it has more to do with this present time and what we have now than back then. Now that was a wise man, cause I came to see it really as what they call satire.
Its a piece of satire W.D. Fard piece of satire on the evils of white supremacy. If you don't understand that word you should write that word down. If you don't get it in high school you will sure get it in English 102, you might get it in English 101, but you'll sure get it in college English 102.

You have that word in your vocabulary, satire cause that's the 102 is literature right? Mostly study of literature yes that's where you will get it. Yes it was a piece of satire on evils of white supremacy and he drew from the Bible and other sources that he could draw from to put his satire together.
So any way, what I'm saying is that the Hon. E. Muhammad when he came from prison he ordered all those lessons with all that in it be taken out of circulation. And if any brother was caught with it on him, like we use to bring it to the temple with us and the minister would be teaching from it and they would have it in their pockets, somewhere, briefcase of something like pieces of a scroll that was lost and they had found it, pieces of lost scroll or something.

And most of the youngsters we were very happy to know that we didn't have to be bothered with that any more, cause we didn't understand it you know it was too difficult for us to make any use of, the young people want to make use of something, and old people want to meditate on something, its not that way all the time, that a general description.
Young people want something to use and old people want something to think about, meditate on. So we were happy you know, young Malcolm came in new mind new spirit and Hon E. Muhammad didn't burden him with all those Yacub' history and stuff didn't even burden him with it, he gave him a message, the black man must unite, must pool our resources, say we must have something of our own, say we got to build something now for our future.

Malcolm liked that he didn't have no problem with that, that was clear, Malcolm grabbed hole of that and he went to work. He told us when he first joined, he had been in prison so he had already been use to the thinking, it wasn't like he came out and was Christian and had to become a Muslim; he came out a F.O.I, that was locked up and never had a chance to get his FO.I. number.
When I met him, we met him he said you know, he said Minister Wallace, I was a minister at the time too,   he said Minister Wallace your father is our Moses and this America is pharaoh, he said that's what I know how to teach and that's what I'm going to teach.

And he became more popular overnight than any other minister of the Hon. E. Muhammad had. So change of emphasis see , the Hon. E. Muhammad didn't say no that's wrong about Yacub the white man is the devil, no he never did say that was wrong, he used that language up until his death almost, he didn't say Yacub. And he's right we still have to be aware of the devil, he might be sitting on the floor next to you. I hope he's not but I can't see him ignoring a meeting like this.


SATAN

One thing if I could speak to Satan himself I tell him I say Satan you know what when I first became acquainted with your name you were as tall as any mountain on this earth in my eyes and now I can hardly find you. I thank Allah for that, so I'm telling you that to let you know if you're with what I represent and I represent G'd direction for all people. If you're with what I represent don't worry about Satan.


EMPHASIS

So the emphasis have been changed when Hon. E. Muhammad got out of prison he told us that, I was a young man but I was there to hear it he made sure all of us heard it, he told us he said if I can see a mustache on your lip say you got to join the men and that mean work. Say what are you doing, you got time to sit around here and just talk get to work!
When finish go out and find something else to do, he wouldn't let you be idle not while other people working, work hours; you idle, he didn't like that at all, you in trouble. He said we have to stop being satisfied preaching in these little small dingy places and just come to the temple with the Quran and bible in our arms and then go back home and wait for the next meeting. He said we have to build something. So he said we have to do something material, this was his message when he came out   of the prison.

He said we have to do something material, leave a material model of accomplishment, he said and that's going to do more to convert our people then all that's
we've done in the past and he was correct. He came out and he put his emphasis, change his emphasis from a savior has come, that what it was up to the release from prison around 48, 47 or 48;

The message was a savior has come to deliver us, that was his message and that was W.D. Fard, and he would show from the bible that Fard was that promised savior and he's coming to save us and America going to be destroyed, that was his message. He changed it when he came out of prison from that to we don't have to go anywhere we can have what we want right here. So let's get busy and build this nation right here in America, that was his message. We use to be expecting the mother ship to come, no this is not joke, this was serious back then, said America was going to be destroyed and sirens was going be blasting so loud shatter windows, telling people get on to your own in 8 or 10 days.

And when it came very close to the time he said people were coming for us, men would be stationed at almost every comer, saying and when you be walking in the street they'll ask you, are you a Muslim? If you said yes they will give you the greetings and tell you where you are to go to get on board.
And after we leave here the lire was coming planes would come and drop bombs, turn up make it a mountain high, a mountain a mile high and fire would just zoom through the atmosphere, say a shortage would be made in the atmosphere, fire would just zoom through the atmosphere the air would become nothing but fire. And this part of the world would bum for 310 yrs I think it was or something like that, it been a long time, and I haven't bothered about remembering it, cause I been through it.

I think all that stuff happened in my past and its just cooling off now any way that's what we were told, that was the message, but he changed the______then later he came up
and asked for separate states I said hey this getting serious now, and I saw him at the table kind play down the seriousness of it, then I felt better.
Cause something inside me told me that separate-states wasn't going to work I was a very young man, he told the staff he said, we know they not going to give us any separate states, they fought their own people over that. He said but if you don't ask for something big you don't get anything. He wasn't no fool that was a wise man, we didn't have a foolish leader, we had a very wise leader and was taught by a very wise man, Mr. Fard.


LANGUAGE

So the emphasis changed from a spiritual community to a business minded community and then after that change I came into the picture. There was no more change of emphasis until I came into the picture, when I came into the picture we went to language to tackle language and to bring a new language environment that would make it possible for us move out into the world of people, of human beings praise be to Allah and Allah blessed us to be successful, we've done that.
We have successfully from one language environment that was designed to contain us until we could get help into another language environment that was designed to get us out of that prison into the normal world, and we thank Allah that we succeeded.



OUR'AN SUNNAH AND UNDERSTANDING 

I heard an Imam right in my own presence, he talking to me really, talking to the brothers but looking at me and talking to the brothers more than one have done this, we thank you brother Imam for bringing us the Qur'an and the sunnah so I said is that all I brought I want to tell him there are African Americans around here with the Qur'an and sunnah and they been around here longer than the Nation of Islam African American Ahmadiyyahs, African American Moorish Americans science Temple, if they want Qur'an and sunnah they can have it.

Many have had Qur'an and sunnah how come they weren't able to do what you did? Now let me tell you, if you put down what I gave you to assist you to get to the Our'an and the sunnah you'll be just like those Ahamdiwahs and those African Americans and Moorish Americans you won't be going anywhere.

Number one G'd won't like it that you reject the help that brought you to the Qur'an and sunnah and number two you'll be left without the great help so you won't be of no more effect in the world than those Ahmadiyyah and other that say they got the Qur'an, so its for your good not me that I'm telling you this.
Because if I just gave you the Qur'an and Mohammed the Prophet life history and told you go to it if that's all I did then you have to explain to me cause I'm confused cause I had the Qur'an too as a young man and my father had book in his library that he had welcomed us to use on the history of our  -   Prophet Muhammad and I was going into both and I didn't come to what we came to. So if that did it without anything else you
leaving me in confusion.
I don't know how it happened, I'm talking to those that try to say they don't know how it
happened.


TOOLS AND VISION

No I came out with tools that nobody had before and a vision that nobody had before and I began to work with those tools to get you to move in the direction of the vision and with, the Mercy and Help of G'd Whose Mercy gave me those tools and that vision we are where we are today.
Now as I talk-to you don't just think, oh I heard that before, just as you read the Qur'an before and it didn't move you, the way you move now you'll hear thing that I say and say I heard that before; I'm not a prophet I don't want to be called reformer, I don't want to be called Mujeddid I don't want to be called anything but what you call yourself.



FINALE OF EVENTS 

Whatever is prophet for you that's all I want, we're living in a new time we're living in a time that really is a finale, the closing the climaxing of events that bring us to the horizon of the world that Allah sent His prophets and messengers to work for. Just now we're coming to that time that point in our life history on this earth that we're going to realize the world that Allah mission all of His servants to work for.



MUHAMMAD'S DAY

So in this new world who is the Leader? Muhammad the Prophet he is definitely the leader, the last, the seal of the Prophets, Muhammad the Prophet this is his day. Not 1000 yrs ago not 1300 yrs ago no today is the Muhammad ibn Abdullah's day and his day is the day that all the prophets wanted to see all of the prophets were blessed with a help to bring them towards the day of Muhammad the Prophet and the world is shaping, being shaped for Muhammad, for his leadership.

Whether they know the Qur'an or are acquainted with the Qur'an or his sunnah or not, they are going to be in the world of Muhammad and benefiting from the world of Muhammad. This is what I realize, I see, and I know this, there is no guess, I'm not confused, I'm not seeing this in part and I need something else to make it final, no I'm seeing it in completion, I need nothing else it is final.

I don't lie to you, I'm a straight man yes, so this is what I see Muhammad the Prophet's day. So I know I'M no big guy, I'm a small guy, I'm no prophet I know I'm not but anyone who can see with the light of Muhammad's day if people are not careful they would think he might be G'd; that's how much brighter Muhammad's day is than those days that are behind.

If I want to I could get a big following saying that I'm G'd incarnate, G'd in the flesh, I could get a big following, they would believe it and if I would preach it for three days I believe it too, because this light is overwhelming. Yes if I do it for three days I'd be lost and I start believing it say I'm G'd in the flesh.



PROPHETS

The prophets are big in their times yes Noah was big in his time, biggest man on earth in his time, Moses biggest man on earth in his time but in the day of Muhammad they become small, because Muhammad's day does not exalt Muhammad it exalts the Word of G'd praise be to Allah.


MOSES

Moses he had a very difficult time with his people they were really forced into the circumstances they were in they didn't all want to be with Moses circumstance forced them to be with Moses and I'm not comparing us now, there's a strong comparison. 


JEWS DIDN'T TRUST

But I'm comparing Moses the Prophet and Muhammad the Prophet Moses had a difficult time with his people, they were suspicious of him, they didn't trust that this man knows what he's doing and why they didn't trust him? For more than one reason, the most important reason was that he was not produced by powers or influences that they knew and understood.


Q. 28:29, 46;   Moses Mountain 
Exodus 19:3;      Moses Mountain 
Q. 19:83-94;      Aaron leader 

So when he was away from them up in the mountain trying to get an audience with G'd he stayed so long they ran out of patience and they elected Moses brother Aaron to be the leader they made Aaron their leader in the absence of Moses and then gave suggestions to Aaron and Aaron followed their suggestions. And they start building the golden calf, false god, deity in absence of Moses.

Mm.478 Q._____
Man like Moses
Acts 3:22;

Now here comes a man Muhammad a man like Moses, I wish you all would talk about somebody else like I do, here is Muhammad coming the last Prophet a man like Moses.

How is he like Moses?    Every Imam should know, Moses was put in a situation to be responsible for giving a new societal order to a people that had exodus from one society into a desert where there was no society so Moses had the job or mission of making a world for a people who had been put out of a world.
They were put out of the world of Egypt into the desert and Moses was their leader and they had to trust him to guide them back to another societal order or another world order, is that clear. 


Here is Muhammad in the world of paganism, idol worship and he's given a mission by G'd to lead people out of the world of paganism into a new world order, is that clear? Into a new societal order, its not hint in the Qur'an at this clearly addressed as Ummah . community, here's a man missioned to lead a people into a community.

Form a community all over, form a community means form another societal order or another world order, that's what Islam is its a world order, a global order, international community. In that respect they are men alike in their mission Moses and Muhammad, but that's not all.



WHY ARGUE WITH MOSES

Why did people argue with Moses? He doesn't have credential like Aaron, he's not
articulate like Aaron he does not have the tongue of the professional like Aaron.
This Moses was not with us, didn't got to school with him, he was floated down the
river as a baby and pharaoh took him in he had no education from us.
Pharaoh made him a soldier and one to oversee the building construction, he's not trained in this language, what kind of man is this we following, claiming he's something but Allah always gives such men in their loneliest hours some persons that believe in them, Moses had them, Muhammad had them.

His wife Khadijah she believed in him and behind him another and another its always god always bless some few persons to believe in people like this in their most loneliest hour, praise be to Allah.
He (Muhammad') was a man like Moses in that he was not educated by the world, the world didn't teach him, he didn't get his education, knowledge from the world.

Different Than Moses

Buhkari 2:504; 4:229; Saw people paradise

How is he different from Moses? What account for his great success? He told his followers that G'd showed me the people in paradise and he saw the number of people in the following of Muhammad, Islam, bigger than the following of Moses, we know there's more to be said there on hadiths about that.

Bukhari 1:345;; 4:429, 537 Prophet 5 prayers

And Moses was telling the Prophet to lighten the burden on the people in retrospect Moses saw that his mission put too much burden on the average person. So he offered so help to the Prophet ask G'd to lighten the burden.


MOSES DIFFICULTY OWN PEOPLE
The point is there's a reason for Moses having all that difficulty he had with his
people.


MUHAMMAD DIFFICULTY WITH IDOLATROUS PEOPLE 

And Muhammad not having all that difficulty, Muhammad's difficulty was with the idolatrous people the pagan idol worshipers, he didn't have a whole lot of difficulty with his own people. His own people gave him allegiance and fought so strongly with him that they welcomed death for the glory of the mission of Islam. They told the enemy, say you ready to fight are you sure? Say let it be known that you're meeting a people in battle that love death more than you live life. That was something to shake a man's nerve I would have had some second thoughts if I was on the other side, I say maybe this ain't the day
for me to go_____
I would have been looking for a way to disappear from the ranks.


Q. 28:15;   Moses killed a man

Exod. 2:12; Acts 7:24: Moses killed a man Moses killed a man and that seems to be the
big mark against Moses in Scripture, a mark stayed with him even after Muhammad, that
he killed a man.

Bible David killed

David killed many men, Solomon killed many men now why is this special thing with Moses for killing one man? And this one man was the enemy of his people and was threatening the life of one of his own people, so what's the big deal, that Moses killed a man ?
Shouldn't you want to know? It's not what you see, looking at, you're looking at Moses killing an Egyptian because that Egyptian was threatening a Hebrew, that's what
you're looking at and Moses acting in anger and killed that man. You have to understand that in light of the community aspirations or the national aspiration of the people called Hebrews or Jews or Israelites.

Moses killed a man meaning Moses up to that point in his life was working for Jews or Hebrews or Israelites not for humanity so here's an attack upon the Egyptians killing that Egyptian was as though he killed humanity, his killing the Egyptian was killing human kind, listen



Q. 28:15, 33; Moses killed a man 

Bring them closer to the mission of addressing the need to advance humanity forward to where G'd wants humanity to go and they had such burden and was so difficulty to deal with that their own leaders were drawn into that interest. See that Moses that killed this Egyptian was not the Moses that had gone up the Mt. Sinai this is the Moses who was told by some of his people that you are to be our deliverer. G'd hadn't told him that it was his people that told him that, you are to be our deliverer to get him out of pharaoh's house to fight for their cause so he was the man that struck the Egyptian and killed him.

Muhammad the prophet before G'd called him, he went into the mountain too, the
mountain of the light, before G'd called Muhammad, Muhammad had not done anything to make any citizen in the land where he lived suspect that he had any spot or blemish, they saw him without spot or blemish. He had not killed anybody over anything.
His interest in his people was not nationalistic he had not nationalist interests in his people he mourned the condition of his people before Allah called him before he went up in the mountain; he saw their condition as being pitiful and he was searching for certain way to bring assistance to them to take them out of their condition.

Muhammad was looking at Jahiliyyah ignorant age Arabia, but Muhammad had traveled outside of Arabia as a business man working for lady Khadijah doing trade he had been to Syria, to other places, gone outside of Saudi Arabia and he had met people from different lands in trade, Muhammad was not ignorant of what the world looked like at that time, he knew what the world looked like at that time.

Q. 18:6; See you grieve 

So Muhammad was weeping not as some Arabs will tell you he wasn't just weeping the condition of the bad state of the Arabs, he was weeping the bad social, community state of humanity at that time and his interest was not I repeat in bringing Arabs to have a great nation, his interest was in bringing his fellow citizens to have a great human life. That was his interest just to have a great human life, so he was not about killing any man he was about saving mankind and that's why G'd chose him, and didn't have to undo him to do him like he has to undo Moses to do Moses.


Q. 20:17;   Moses rod

Q. 20:12; Moses take off shoes

What is that you have in you hand Moses?, that ain't going to work here unless I can
change it, Moses take off your shoes his shoes was not acceptable where he was
standing shoes weren't acceptable and his staff that he leaned upon used to beat the
brush to get through the thicket was not acceptable not as it was.


MUHAMMAD ACCEPTABLE

Q. 74:1-3;   Oh you in mantle arise warn But Muhammad didn't have anything that was not acceptable Oh you and your mantle arise and warn, didn't say oh you and vour mantle what are you wearing there? The only problem you have you need what I got and don't worry we going to enrich you to the point where you have no more wants, praise be to Allah.

Q. 94:1; We're expand your breast 

Q. 73:5-6;   Weighty Word 

Its nothing wrong with your heart but we're going to expand your breast for a weighty word, that's G'd talking in the Qur'an. Can you see a direction when I'm talking, if you don't see a direction when I'm talking I'm missing you or you're missing me.
It wouldn't have happened until the right time see the world navigation was developing the Arabs were already navigators others had been navigators on the high seas, the world is coming together they were looking for routes to India which would and did bring them to connect the two sides of the world and see the whole world as one; have routes to all people around the globe all that was developing at the time of Muhammad.



Q.2:30;   Khalifah In earth 

Great Persian fleets and others on the high seas so G'd saw at the right time G'd selected a man without spot or blemish, He selected him, selected a pure vessel to pour His Spirit and His Word into. How do we know that? G'd says to angels I'm making a khalifa in the earth and they had some questions some very serious concerns, this is going to make bloodshed. G'd says nevertheless I know what you know not wait until I have put My Spirit into him, wait until I have given him of my Spirit, men ruhi, you think He's talking about Adam?


ADAM

But Adam got the first but didn't get the second and the whole humanity had to wait for Muhammad to get the second oh no brother Imam there you go again you should check your sources, references, I do. Prophet Adam, was created by G'd and not suppose to be any world existing before then so if he had the wrong spirit where did he get it from?

Q. 15:29;   I breath of My spirit 

But G'd said to the angels you don't see this creatures worth as I see it, I see his worth because you don't have the knowledge I have, wait until I have breath into him of My own spirit.
So what spirit did Adam have when G'd created him? Human spirit, he had the spirit of the humanity that G'd wanted in all of us He created Adam with that, but that's not enough that we have the human spirit in its excellence that G'd wanted for the human
that's not enough, that can only take us so far; this world is too big a challenge for the
human creation without help from Divine agent.



Q. 2:36-38;   Adam slipped repented

So they had to wait until they get the Spirit from G'd now the Word came to Adam after
Adam got into trouble without the extra assistance from G'd he gets in trouble with
the deceiver, the enemy of mankind and he looses his life that G'd had given him and
G'd says he meets with a Word from His Lord and he repents, get back on the right
track.
But after Adam came more mistakes after getting on the right track and mankind
making mistakes over and over again and prophets being sent to him over and over
until the last prophet no more.

Q. 32:9; 40:15; Spirit to every living thing 

This Muhammad must be an exceptional prophet he's not an ordinary prophet, was Prophet Muhammad the only one to get this spirit from G'd? No. He was not G'd said He has given His Spirit to every living creature something of His Spirit, not just Prophets and Messengers. Every living creature something of His Spirit.

Q. 17:85; Spirit you know but little What is this special spirit that Muhammad gets that makes Muhammad so successful as a prophet that there's no need for any other prophet to come behind him, what is this special spirit that he gets? 
Obviously G'ds Spirit is one and a mystery cause G'd says of the ruh you know but little talking to humanity, we know but little. What is this special portion of His Spirit that he give to Muhammad that makes him so successful?



Hadith - Muhammad Jesus together

Now we want to see connection for Muhammad I Christ Jesus, Prophet Muhammad said in the end they shall see us together in end of the world and Muhammad obligated Muslims to believe in Christ Jesus not just to believe in Prophet Jesus, not just messenger Jesus believe in Christ Jesus.

Q. 4:171; Jesus Word. Spirit from G'd What is the connection? Jesus we know identified more with the Ruh of G'd than any other prophet, messenger none more strongly identified with the Spirit of G'd His Ruh than Jesus.

Q. 3:59;     Jesus Adam from dust 

Matt. 1:1-17;   Jesus genealogy 

Jesus is connect back with Adam the first man to understand his existence the Genesis takes us back to Adam the first man so the logic supporting the existence of Jesus in human form among us goes back to the existence of the first man Adam, the genealogy of Christ or of man going back from Christ Jesus to Adam, Adam's creation in genesis.

Jesus is like Adam that's what we're told in Qur'an, Adam was created by G'd not by the world and Adam was created in perfect condition he had not defects as a human being mold model that G'd wanted for humans and he was safe in the mold, model life until he was deceived out of it, then that's when the trouble came, he was deceive out of it.

Jesus traced back to him he's again creation like Adam, he is perfect in the human mold and model life that G'd wanted for humanity but if the angels could have looked at the world again and saw instead of Adam the beginning of the world with Jesus Christ I'm sure the angels would have looked at Jesus Christ and they would have said the same thing G'd what will You create other than something that will cause bloodshed, confusion? And G'd would have had to tell them all over again or for the first time with Jesus I know what you don't know.

Here is the world being regenerated with another man called Jesus and this man is given the perfect human form that G'd gave Adam and he's perfect in his human life, mold, form but is he sufficient and he's a Word from G'd and Spirit.

Q. 34:28; Prophet is enough 

I know of no other Prophet than Muhammad that the scripture G'd savs he is sufficient enough for all humanity.


PROPHETS

You're saying the other prophets are deficient? Not deficient as a reflection on them but deficient with reference to G'd's progression of the Word, G'd's Work is progressional.
G'd put first man to carry us here, next man there, next, next until we come to the destiny or destination, then no more men to be sent. Not deficient as human beings they were all perfect for the job G'd created them for, but the created for stages in a progression.

Jesus

John 16:7;   Expedient I go away 

Here come Jesus now according to the Gospel he is a man that he himself saw as being insufficient to accomplish what has to be accomplished in the state he was in when he was on this earth for that reason he said I have to go away if I don't go away the comforter will not come unto you.

So here's one stage in the development of the liberator that's good up to a point to go from that point into the next progression this one has to drop off like a leaf from a tree until the season come for the tree to bloom again. When the season come for the tree to bloom again he will appear again himself that one that dropped off will appear again and he will be the comforter.

He will not just be the Spirit from G'd but He will be the Spirit of truth so Jesus the spirit of G'd prophesied the coming of the spirit of truth oh Jesus was the spirit of truth up to a point beyond that point he could not take the world at that time in his state then.

Jesus identity

Blood = spirit      Flesh = doctrine

What is Jesus more importantly is he blood and flesh more importantly no according to
the word of the gospel that he is supposed to have brought the blood is the Spirit of his
Word, teachings and his flesh is the doctrine of the new testament.
We're not looking at flesh and blood really we're looking at the teachings, the logic the reasoning in the gospel and looking at the spirit of humanity love for G'd and humanity and that is the Jesus.

And he (Jesus the Word) did come back in Muhammad the prophet that why he say you're going to see us together in the end the Spirit of truth now-the truth has come and falsehood perishes.

Q. 21:18; Truth knock out falsehood brains

And it was always doomed to be a perishing thing, lost world of Islam looking for Jesus to come out of the sky in mortal body with a great sword in his hand to slay pigs and break down crosses what madness. Almost got to the subject all of that was introduction.
When you got a nervous people and you tell them this plank is solid and I want to walk from the edge of this cliff over to that cliff and the abyss is between the two, I put that plank up there and its solid you just can't tell them to get up there and walk if they the nervous type. You go to first tell them where you got that plank what kind of wood its made of and you already inspected the other side over there and you got to give them all that information in order to get them to walk from one point to another.

John 14:17; Truth shall lead into all truth When the spirit of truth has come the truth shall lead you into all truths this is universality its the march of the spirit and message of universality that's what G'd's Will is, G'd's Way for humanity, it is the spirit and march to universality that all men are one flesh all people are one people, all matter is one scheme made by G'd.


DESTINY
The destiny of man is in his own human makeup but G'd has to show him what he knows not G'd had to reveal to him his own creation so that he would feel comfortable with G'd, going to his destination. His destination is to go to the perfect order of his own life, that's his destination.

Spiritual destination 

You may say brother Imam, are you saying that there's no spiritual destination? That is the spiritual destination and that is a spiritual journey to get to the destination to get to the journey in its completion and its perfection what G'd created every person for, that is the
destination and the journey to it is a spiritual journey.

We will not get there without the help of G'd, without Revelation from G'd we will not get there without special spiritual being among human being in human form to receive G'd's Guidance and take us there Its a spiritual journey because the flesh be taken to that destination without the human spirit in it, its nothing but an animal the only thing dignifies this flesh is the human being inside of it take the human being outside of it becomes more despicable than many animals.

But the spirit is the power and the spirit is the direction to take that flesh to its destination, the destination is going to be a new city a new Jerusalem a new community of man on this earth and there are people who envy us that we have come upon this road that we are on the journey.


USURPERS

They see us moving in a miraculous way people that left E. Muhammad and now with his son W.D. Mohammed they're moving in a miraculous way. Lets go and study them see what accounts for this miraculous journey they're making on this road let us go if we can and usurp their authority.

If we don't after a while the world will see them and they may make us look small. So lets go and get control of their circumstances by hook or crook so I told one bold enough to speak his devilish mind to me, let it slip out. I told him I said you like our spirit but you want our spirit to have no body, we're not going to accept that, G'd has blessed us with a spirit and has blessed us with the intelligence and the guidance to go find a body for it. So at this point I have arrived to the subject.


I said what we were doing was to prepare you to not be nervous as you walk •    the plank not to not connection but to the best connection see the one who walks the plank at sea, he walks the plank to no connection, there's nothing on the end of the plank but a drop. What we're talking about is walking a board walk or a plank from one elevation of land to another elevation of land that's separated by an abyss or a deep crevice that we don't want to fall into.


ELEVATION ISLAMIC LOGIC

So I would say the elevation that we're walking away from is an elevation of this
world's logic and we want to go from the elevation of this world's logic to the
elevation of Islamic logic. And it is frightening to one who doesn't know the solid support in Islamic logic.


WORLD LOGIC = MATERIALISM 

What is the logic of the world? The logic of the world is materialist the world is united upon one logic, materialism that's the logic their united upon.


WORLD OF SPIRIT

Then you have the world of spirit that lives in the bodies of the world of materialism.
So here we are in the world of materialism and we have the world of faith living in the
world of materialism and we live in the bodies that they produce for us.
They produced this building, the car, right?


SEPARATE CHURCH STATE, FAITH, BUSINESS 

That's the world of materialism and they separate the two, they don't only separate
church and state they separate the faith community and the business community. So what we have for bodies for our spirit our life is given to us by the business community. So we want to walk off away from this elevation, world of business or materialism and we want to go over to the platform or elevation of Islamic Logic not this world's logic.

This world's logic provides for spiritual logic provides accommodates spiritual logic; accommodate can be positive and negative. If I get hotel accommodations that's positive but if I have a wife that's going to accommodate me tonight that's negative. Is that not right?

She's going to accommodate me tonight no, no this is a right I have girl this is something that's supposed to be ours it ain't you accommodating me its us enjoying something together. This is supposed to be a situation of equality not a landlord and a place to stay.
So aren't you tired of being accommodated? I am I want a better situation.

So we want to go from this world's logic without destroying it, we not going to get on the other side and then invent some cannons and fire on the structure that we left and knock it down no; we going to stand upon our solid ground and salute the other side, that means respect from a disciplined person.

But we're not going to stand upon this world's logic, if we want to go where Allah wants us to go with his Word the Qur'an and His messenger the model person human Muhammad then we have to not stand upon this world's logic but stand upon Islamic logic and walk in this world, move in this world, two things in this world, build in this world, provide our own accommodations instead of having somebody accommodate us.



DISEMBODIED PERSONS 

We have to accommodate ourselves and then work hard to accommodate others who are out of doors like we are, disembodied persons in a material world. That's what we are going to be talking about, how do we see this Islamic logic so that we can reach it where ever we are so that we can get it where ever we are, what is Islam?


Q. 3:193; 
WE HEARD ONE CALLING TO FAITH 

The prophet gave the answer its five, what is this message? G'd gave it He said and there are those who say they have hear a caller calling, saying not just calling to faith but say something believe in your Lord, not just a call to faith.
What is the faith you're being called to? Faith in your Lord we know what faith is the principles of faith, the articles of faith they are developments out of a bigger issue, the issue bigger than believing in Angels, the Books of G'd the prophets the day of judgment and the qadr of G'd the issue bigger than that is believing in your lord, your Lord is first.


If he had said believe in the angels I am a caller calling you to believe in the day of judgment, John the Baptist was a caller calling to believe in the day of judgment but how far did that take them? So here is a caller calling people saying believe in your lord; this is not an English term originally this is an Arabic term originally.


LORD

What is the meaning of Lord in its original form or context, the Arabic Qur'an?   Is lord a person Jesus, Muhammad? No. Who is the lord Allah G'd of the heavens and the earth is the Lord. How do we know that Allah G'd is the Lord? Al hamdu lillahe rabbil 'ialameen praise be to G'd Lord of all worlds. 


SYSTEMS OF KNOWLEDGE

Q. 39:4; Son? He would chosen whom He created

Your Lord is G'd not the son of G'd, G'd's creation, no son, He creates no sons, men created by G'd, servants, dependants but no biological sons G'd is not biology and this is gospel to but its confused the language is so covered that you can't see it G'd has blessed me to lift the cover and I can see it. The Gospel says G'd has no biological children, descendants and I'll take any preacher, Pope himself to test any man on this earth to test because I know what I'm talking about and won't have to take them to test they'll recognize the truth quickly, those big fellows I mentioned they'll see it right away.

So what is the meaning of your Lord? G'd as Lord is not only the Lord of man, G'd as Lord is Lord of everything in existence so what is the meaning of Lord? In the Qur'anic text many of the scholars have discussed the meaning of this term Rabb in the Qur'an has meaning that the One that's called and entitled to that name is the One Who takes a thing that still needs help to get where it is to go and He takes that thing. being and cares for it watches over it protects it from a distance and also with the awareness of that thing sometimes, that's being done.

Protects it and give it what it needs to assist it on where it has to go that's Rabb. So G'd is the Rabb of everything in existence He created this world but He also planned for this world's protection and for this world's growth into its completion. And the laws and influences etc that are operating to bring matter to where Allah intend or it to go eventually have been designed by G'd and G'd in so designing it that way is the Lord of that matter.   Not just the Lord of man.

Q. 114;l-3;

Although we are called to see G'd in our own world as-our Lord say I seek refuge with the Lord of man, the king of man, the G'd of mankind. What does that signify? When man has been affected by his Lord in the way his Lord want him to be affected he's going to be in community life and in community life he's going to need a ruling order and the ruling order is called kingdom because the last of the old scriptures Jews and Gospel promises man a kingdom. Thy kingdom come king suggest presence of a kingdom.

What is lastly? We want this kingdom to be like that that is in heaven so this kingdom must be under G'd. Man is affected by his Rabb to develop as his Rabb intends for him to be developed into a civilized community order. After that he needs the Lord that will serve that order and he needs a rule for that order but he should see G'd always in his life and in his destiny.


KINGS DIVINE

So when he achieves community life he should be aware that it is his Lord the Creator of the heavens and the earth that has designed for him to come to this community life.   When he has achieved government and set on the throne representing the public the citizens he should be aware his lord has been in all of his developments and his Lord has brought him to be king so he shouldn't make himself to be god like many kings did in past times like pharaoh but he should witness, worship G'd.

Elah G'd

Elahen nas means worship G'd where you direct your devotion when man has been formed as a community and then he has formed a law and order for that community and he sits on the throne representing authority then he should have that whole community and govt. and its head worship G'd that has been in all of his developments to bring him from dust to where he is.

We have heard a caller calling saying to faith believe in your Lord and we have believed, see what intelligent men will believe in not seasonal men that will be here for 2 or 3 yrs and they see another horizon and they leave here and go to another horizon I'm talking about men who make an allegiance for life when they put their hand in the hand of the leader its not only their hand its the hand of their loins their children and grandchildren to come their pledging their future to the leader for generations to generations to come that's how they pledged the allegiance to Muhammad.

They were saying as intelligent men of insight that we have heard a man saying come to faith and saying believe in the G'd that has evolved our matter from dead matter to become a social community of human beings that's our Creator Who is also our Evolver Lord, I can believe in that I want to believe in that.


G'D IN MORE THAN IN MOTHER 

That's as dear to me and more dear to me than believing in my mother who carried me in her stomach her womb and when I came out she stayed with me, fed me, cleaned me and helped me until I could walk on my own feet and wasn't satisfied until she saw that I could go out of the house and get a job and make it for myself I can believe in her I can believe in that Lord in the same way.

Because I was nothing and someone is telling me to believe in the one that took me from being nothing and cared for my destiny so much that He didn't even bother to introduce Himself to me said I don't want you to be bothered with that heavy responsibility to try to understand what I'm doing, I'm just going to do it for him.

Evolved you up into social civilized human community life through the power of your emotional life, your soul and your brain our intellect, He has done that for mankind. So believe in your Lord your Rabb not your lord of person but your Lord God/The old testament emphasizes that the Lord our G'd. Now the prophet then is a leader of faith and leader of works.


Brother Imams we then in the position of Imams we are supposed to be serving the office of Muhammad, he is the first Imam for us we suppose to be serving the office of the prophet so to know what our role is in that office we have to study the Word of G'd the Qur'an and the Muhammad's life to know that.

So aren't we caller to faith? If we're not we're not Imams, Imam doesn't mean rabbi, preacher, priest, minister Imam means a leader following the office of Muhammad the Prophet. G'd say he's a caller calling the people to believe in their Lord, G'd not flesh. Then you should look at yourself and say am I calling the people to faith and am I inviting them to believe in their Lord? Not their lord Jesus Christ not me, not anybody else, not Imam W. Deen Muhammad the lord, but I'm inviting them to believe in the Lord Creator of the heavens and the earth.

G'd      

HUMAN VALUABLE

Q. 2:34;        Angel bow Adam 
Psalms 8:5;   Little below angels 

Who after creating them as matter enabled them to be born from a biological body of a female in biological image of a human person He came there and stood distance where you couldn't see Him. G'd and watched you to see that you developed where He wanted you to go and in every time you were in a crisis and the world couldn't solve the crisis He sent a Word from Himself through a vessel fit to carry It, that's G'd;   to get you where He want you to go, as a person of great worth, worth so much until G'd says Made you a little above the angels not in the form you in now maybe, but in the form He wants you in at the destination.

Bukhari 8:578, 580;

Prophet said Meet me at the destination,
abundance.

Q. 33:21; Prophet best example for those who believe in G'd 
Q. 34:28;   Prophet enough for man 

Here is a prophet a leader of the Faith community, he's such a leader that G'd wants the whole world of faith to know that they have no better leader than Muhammad best example for those who believe in G'd and the last day, didn't say for Muslims only for any who believe in G'd and the last Day. If you're truly believer in religion here the excellent model for you and he's enough for the whole humanity Kaafaten len nas, enough for all people.

So here is the model leader for the Faith community but he's also a leader of works the world is coming to the point where they're going to have to meet him soon as the leader of the Faith community but before they're going ,to see him as the leader of the works.


DAY OF JUDGMENT

The great day of Deen is very close in this life, it's on us now you're living in the Day of Religion. Doesn't mean you're not going to have the Qiyamah, talking about the day of religion that some may confuse with the day of Qiyamah.
Lot of things take place in day of religion its a long day when it comes it lasts eternally
almost because the 432___________is
gone and the Qiyamah is just one of those things that takes place somewhere I the eve of that day.


Bukhari 4:734,5; Last stone in building
Luke 20:17-18;   cornerstone builder
Isaiah 28:16:  rejected
Psalms 118:22;

What we need to know is that Muhammad is he said there was a building and G'd's has
sent messengers before him to contribute to the completion of that building and when he
came along one block was missing and he said of himself that he is that last block.

He was the last part to be put in that construction that was not complete and he is so important, if its just a block I could imagine a brick being missed from the side or the chimney and it wouldn't necessarily be that important bu if the cornerstone is missing in the language of the masons of old it would be a tragic loss for the whole construction.

Book   p. _
And its not accident that Muhammad the prophet placed the stone in the cloth and then invited men to join him to represent mankind doing the job, not just a man, one man, mankind is doing the job before even G'd called him, before he went up on the mountain.



Q. 3:64; Raise not Lords from among self 

He is that man we know it, now the works to do the works, what are the works you have to do? If you're going to call the people to faith you must call the people to believe in the Lord that is not white, black brown, European, not African, not Asian, not anybody from us.   Agree oh men that you will not raise up from yourselves Lords to the disrespect for G'd. so what Lord you going to call them to brother? You're calling them to have faith, to believe in your Lord people, that is not European, not African Asian not anybody from biological life, but the one Who exist in the heavens and the earth everywhere and lives eternally, neither sleeps nor slumbers, no fatigue touches him.

Preach what you know of this Lord that distinguishes Him clearly from a biological body. You don't have to attack the idea in Christianity of Jesus being son of G'd just preach clearly what Allah has revealed in the Qur'an, then they will know without you telling them not to believe in a biological body as G'd they will know not to do it and they will be so happy and grateful to G'd and you that you assisted them on the way.

That's a universal call you need to take out of your bag that you carry to the rostrum all that local crap that ain't no good but for a small situation on the earth and pick up the great eternal help that G'd give in His Word and in His messenger, pick it up and put the universal truth in your bag and walk proudly with it, knowing that no man can put you to shame. Put it, (Qur'an) on the table it will speak for you. I didn't want our brother to stay for this session here he would have walked out a nobody or either a Muslim walked out a nobody and fit for nothing, this knocks the brains out of falsehood and you didn't want to kill him. Want him to come in on the carpet of ease.

As for our works its to build community life, why were we so consumed, so excited and so willing to give all our time, energy, labor for the Hon. E. Muhammad, why? Because that man though he did not have clarity and didn't have the right religion he sure enough had the right destiny for man as a social creature. G'd created man to be a social creature means that he has to live with his family, neighbors, citizens, be a part of an order that's extending the circles and boundaries of his life for him so that he can live outside of the small worlds of a house in the big dimensions of a country and finally in the universal world. When you address that need in man you going to awake something in him that nobody else that others that didn't address that, didn't touch.



Spirit need body

Church calling us to love Jesus and to have faith,... be born again they're talking to a spirit and ain't offering no body for that spirit to live in. The spirit was created to live in a body now G'd gave me this spirit that's in this flesh body, me, this person and this spirit in my flesh body want to have a bigger dimension for me to live in; and want me to have a part in the upkeep of that bigger dimension like 1 have a very special part in this small dimension I call my flesh.


COMMUNITY RESPONSIBILITY 

So a man offer me a chance to come out into a bigger dimension say we want to have this block under our control, neighborhood you going to get some men to follow you buddy, men understand that and men need that, their souls need that, they know what you're talking about when you're talking about getting living 542________  that's the
Jewish expression for territory or space in which to live and express yourself in, yourself.


SPIRIT

I live in my own body, its here to express me this hand aint doing nothing on its own unless its doing it for me, the life inside this body, uses this body for expression and G'd made you as a spirit, as a spirit your life goes beyond the boundaries of your flesh; not just oh you're talking about felling? No. You, what are you essentially? You're body, mind and spirit, your spirit goes outside of you, we're not only talking about a spirit in some separate entity or context separate from your body and your mind, I'm talking about your mind that is composite, your spirit contains your flesh interest, mind interests and your spirit's interest all in one entity: a spiritual entity.

So when you feel bad your spirit may want to come away from what your feeling that's out there or then your spirit may be feeling bad because of something in here and it wants to go away from this stuff in here out there, right? And your spirit when it goes out there your mind goes with it and your material interest goes with it your whole life brother has mobility outside of your limited biological framework.


IDENTITY   BODY PROTECTS LIFE 

That's what man has to understand about his identity. Don't identify man with his physical for, picture only that man was just put there so that would be a protection for his life, his expression goes beyond his flesh, his interests goes beyond his flesh, he lives in a bigger dimension than the biological dimension.                        ,


HUMAN

If you just live in your biological dimension you're not human that's what make you human you must live in a dimension bigger than your biological or flesh form. You get a wife your interest goes to her and you're living with her mentally, materially, spiritually with her in every way. If you not living with her materially why you brought her a box of candy tonight to go to bed with her and get what you want? You brought some chocolates to get some cookies. I know your that your life that's shared with her is more than spirit, its spirit its mental its material its everything.


BODY LAND MATERIAL FOR EXPRESSION 

So here is the G'd Great Architect of the universe has designed a human creature
biological flesh and blood creature who actually is not contained in his own body and he must have a bigger body to contain him so he wants all the time to get more and more living space so he can have bodies structures to put his life in and to see his life having bigger and better expression. Ummah community that's what G'd wanted us to have He created us for community.

We must have community life in our charge so that brother John, Abdullah and sisters


SOUL

Q. 91:7-10; Soul enlightenment 
Q. 61:10; Shall I lead you to a bargain 

The soul can become defective, distorted, warped, ill-formed if the wrong thing get in the soul can be destroyed by the world. But if we can keep the soul pure, unadulterated in the human form that G'd made for it this soul will keep signaling to our mind, our intellect our duties our responsibilities and will keep pressuring us until we fulfill our part of the bargain with G'd, commercial bargain that you'll be so pleased with, fulfill your obligation to G'd.


SUBSTRATA EXPRESSION

We're living as conscious beings and G'd created us before we even became conscious of ourselves and on that level for, out of the need to have language I'm giving some language, on that level let us say that's substrata expression, so here is in our soul before we're even conscious of ourselves we're on an existence we may call substrata level of expression where expression is not controlled by me like I'm in my sleep Im not in control of what I'm doing. And then G'd want us to come out of that substrata level into a conscious level of expression.

What do we say? Ash hadu an laa elaaha illalah I witness there is but one G'd, testimony that's the first level of consciousness in Divine reality to recognize that there is G'd in that substrata existence of expression we're really like sleep walkers. We have life we're going about but our whole life is like a life of sleep until we awake to the reality that there's a G'd over us responsible for us existing.

Strata #1 we're declaring faith in G'd ... 
Salat pray is the Our'an 

Then we go to level 2 of our expression and that's salat, if we find the G'd we find the Will of G'd, you find G'd with G'd is also His Will, His Word for your expression and what is that? What is our prayer brother? Our prayer is the whole Quf an our expression is our prayer and our prayer is the Qur'an the whole Qur'an.


CHARITY

Zakat what is Zakat" Growth, money, wealth useful things that people need in their life for real existence in a material world. How is prayer going to bring us to zakat? Testimony bring you to the Qur'an ... When you come to see the Qur'an as our prayer you will then see how the Qur'an will bring us to have material growth so that we will be able to afford to give support to all these needs in society.



We can't take them to hajj because we have a big malik over there I don't know about a
big Aziz but he's definitely a malik. Our prayer takes to be in a position take we can support the institution of salat; we got to stop looking to people who should be on zakat for zakat. We're men why can't we produce wealth and take care of our needy people, why do we have to get the needy people to .take care of us?

Fasting

After zakat, restraint once G'd has blessed you to accumulate wealth and then you become charitable you're giving to others, your charity reaches your ego and devilish intellect as an instrument for enslaving people and building a kingdom for yourself.

So you'll be tempted, the urge is human first specially when you're called to goodness the good urge is first but after people enjoy the luxuries, the luxuries sometimes lull them to sleep, the consciousness, the moral alertness goes to sleep and they are not as morally alert as they were before enjoying the material benefits. 

Then the tendency comes that you will become a devil in your power or in your authority and you will start to use your knowledge that your using for G'd you'll start to use it for self promotion and you will be able to take advantage of the charity nature in people to increase wealth for yourself for you own scheme and you will us your charity to buy power for yourself. Governments their charity is destroyed, killed by their scheme to use their wealth to buy more power and image for themselves on day of judgement they have no credit with G'd

John 1:1
In beginning was word

In beginning was word to be expressed now we have to express our restraint....

Q. 3:103;   Brink of fire All of these are conscious strata the 5th on the unity of mankind, expression demonstrating to the world that Muslims acknowledges and promotes the unit of all people there's hot superiority for black or white.

G'd says He found you on the pit of the brink of fire and in so doing we became brothers.

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Imam's Meeting Harvey, IL
Monday 12-22-97



This is a good time in fact its a great time to meet together and have some comments on our faith and to have some exchange from each other really, to have some exchange; and I just did something that I don't like to do, I left my wedding band at home in the washroom they'll find it I hope.

I just realized my finger was naked, and it s a silver wedding band you know, its a silver one, that makes me miss it even more. This time according to our Prophet (pbh), is a good time to recite Qur'an and to have discussion, to have really taleem in the morning after Fajr prayer that was his tradition and the tradition of his companions, those noble, excellent men who gave their all to Islam, to Allah and to Muhammad behind his leadership.


BELIEVERS EVERY GENERATION 

And Allah has blessed us to have some men like that all the time, we don't know it there always men like those men around every generation will have some men like those great men that stood with our prophet.   We won't know them all the time but they're here on the earth don't worry about that.

Yes, we have them, but the times that we experience on the earth and the powers that are not G'd fearing powers sometimes make the situation so critical for a precious people that they have to remain kind of hidden because if they don't they be ignorant and expose themselves and the enemies will want to get rid of them. So they hide themselves when its necessary and that's permitted in Islam under very critical threatening circumstances its permitted to hide yourself from the enemy until times get better.


BEST TIME FOR RELIGION

I thank Allah that the world is changing, its opening up to faith, faith in G'd not necessarily Islam, but for us it is G'd behind all of this and opening the way for the true Religion, yes we know that, but the people they see it as opening the way for faith and this is the best time in my opinion on this earth since man has been on this earth, this is the best time.

There never was a time when so much faith was respected by the establishments of the world including the governments of the world I know you say well a lot of these governments look like they don't respect faith, well they're forced to respect faith now and they do respect faith; and the pressure is growing on them more and more everyday now to get them to have more respect for people's religion, for genuine faith, genuine religion.

I haven't read or heard of a time like this and I do believe and this is what I said yesterday, this is the day of Religion, we're living in the day of Religion

Day
Q. 22:61; 78:9-11;   
Night / day merger Day means light, day of religion and G'd says He made the night and the day to follow each other and He made the night before the day and then He made the day, and made the night for our rest, the rest of the body , the rest of the mind, the rest of the spirit for our rest and He made the light, the day, which is the light, the day for our livelihood for our activities.


ISLAMIC LOGIC

Well if this is the day of Religion this means this is the day of really living out your Religion being active doing the work that your Religion wants you to do, and in that connection I want to mention to you again the logic that I was speaking to you on yesterday, the logic that we have to build our lives upon .

Forty Hadith #3 p. 34; Islam built on five

And I mentioned that logic really as five and that logic is really the logic upon which our Religion is based Muhammad the Prophet he said [buniyal Islamu 'ila khamsa] ... it means that Islam has been established upon five, he didn't say five what he said khamsen five then but he later he said that five they are to witness that the G'd to be a witness that G'd exists and G'd is G'd. To be a witness that there is no G'd but G'd, G'd is the only G'd Allah, that's what he's talking about that what Allah means, Allah means the only G'd.

To witness G'd he didn't say himself now we know we are to witness Muhammad to that came later but he said it is to witness G'd, that G'd exist and it is to make prayers to do the prayers and to give in charity and to fast he said, we know the fast is clear by him he said it another time and many times the fast of Ramadan which is approaching now, very near on us very close.


Ramadan soul knows 

The souls of the believers can feel the nearness of Ramadan you don't have to look at the calendar your soul feel the nearness of Ramadan because you have been in the habit your soul knows, is in the habit of fasting the month of Ramadan yearly.


So when the time comes the soul knows before we know it, the soul feel it before we feel it and we feel it inside its a feeling Ramadan is near and after a while it registers on the mind and we and the real strong Believers they can't wait for the first day of Ramadan they anticipating it with hopes of really getting into to it and fasting and reading Qur'an daily and strengthening their life because1 we know and this is to be taken very much to heart, we know that the Word of G'd is our life.


WORD OF G'D OUR LIFE

The Word of G'd is our life, our life is not this body, flesh and blood and my own intelligence and my own emotional make-up the life is not really that, I need G'd's Word to come into that life to make it really a life, the life that Allah wants. So our life is human but what makes it really alive give it life, give it vigor give it willpower and everything that G'd wants for that life; the life that G'd wants in the body has to come with the Word of G'd. And that's the life that's the only life that is the real life, until then we're dead or sleeping, we have to have the Word of G'd in us to be alive, really alive as G'd wants us to be alive, the life that Allah intended for us.

We know the Qur'an is the life so we are anxious our own biological body knows that is the real life, not this life I have not this biological life but the real life is what comes into me when Wallace is listening to Qur'an and feeling the Qu'ran and digesting the Qur'an that is the real life.

Body Health

Because this physical body it gets is life from the material world and the material world you now is everything that's there the elements and the water, the water and all the elements that's in the material world that we have to take into our body 108 of them something like that, we have to take from the material world into our body.

That gives our body the physical form and keeps the physical form for us, if we don't take that food we feel life going away, right? The life of the physical body will start to go away and when it starts to go away it affects the mind too doesn't it. it affects the spirit, affects everything. When it starts to go away you're losing your life no food no water, nothing, you're losing your life you feel everything going away even your mind will start failing you, you can't think well; after a while you're almost like a mentally sick person, you might become delirious and you can't even use your mind any more, because the life of your body.

Its only a sign of the real life when you stay from Islamic food too long the same thing happens and its more frightening than being without the material food. And you won't only lose the life but you'll lose your loved ones, lose your family, your children, your friends, lose your future, you lose everything.


Q.4:171;   Jesus a Word a Sign 

This is the life the Qur'an the Word of G'd is the life and Jesus was but a sign of that a sign in the world that the Word of G'd is the life and you have to eat of that Word then
Imam's Meeting 3-13-97 p.81 you will have the life.



I thank Allah for blessing us to be brothers in Islam I was raised to appreciate what you might call fraternity the fellowship, I was raised that way, when I was a little child I saw the brotherhood that my father was trying to build and it was a good one even without light.


BROTHERHOOD

We had strong feelings of brotherhood and we lived not just for ourselves for our idea of what Islam was, we lived for each other. It was not only an idea, it was also a love for brothers, lover for your brother, for your sister, for the community of Muslims. And Allah has blessed us to have that coming back now.

I see it in fact to me its better now than it ever has been. We have a few problems but they are small for most of us we have the Religion, the Faith , the love for the Faith has given us back the brotherhood without the love for the Faith you don't have any brotherhood.

Logic world materialism 

Getting back to the logic upon which we have to build our lives not the logic of this world. I mentioned the logic of this world is materialism and everything thing else is expedient. I hope you're understanding what I'm saying.
Material support and everything else is expedient in this world .

But for us everything is expedient but the Guidance of G'd, I mean everything can be sacrificed.



John 16:7; It's expedient I go away


EXPEDIENT

By expedient we mean it can be sacrificed, it can go away its in the bible new testament, "Its expedient that I go away ". [Jesus] even his own life was a subject to the rule of expedience meaning that the urgency we can't get around it, its something we have to face so we have to do this.

In the name of something else, expedience is always subject to something else or in the name of something else. Political expedience this is necessary, we have to do this political thing has to be done in order to save us from something worst that we might have to suffer;

So we in Islam we do not have any Religious expedience that sacrifice Religion, everything else has to be sacrificed but the Religion never.

We will give up our material security to keep our Faith, obey G'd. we'll give up everything but this world won't give up its material security for anything, it will sacrifice everything else for its material security.

This is the world, when I say the world I'm not talking about the world of Faith I'm talking about the world that's in the hands of people who have great wealth, that's where the world is, the world is in the hands of the wealth holders, those that have the great wealth, its in their hands

They are not all bad people but they go by expedience, go by a particular expedience, they say well its time to sacrifice morality and they do it. And they will sacrifice morality in the name of that expedience. They say its time to sacrifice faith in G'd and they will do it, they will sacrifice faith in G'd for that material expedience.


BAD TIMES FOR MASSES 

During the bad times for the people they think the world is gone, lost the real rulers who control the wealth of the world its no bad time for them they know what they're doing. But the Church will be worried, the Mosque, Synagogue will be worried, even the government will be worried.


GOVERNMENT TOOL OF THE WEALTHY 

After all the government tool of the wealthy unless the public protects, if the public doesn't protect our government, the government is nothing but a tool of the wealthy. We have to understand all these things and know the logic of this world.


LOGIC MATERIAL WORLD 

I have mentioned to you on several occasions what I see as the logic of this world, its a very peculiar system but yet a very strong one that have proven that it can have great longevity and long life. Its designed for survival, many governments come and go but this government has stayed for all these years, in fact the only other government that stayed like this have been governments that have been strong dictatorships under a figure head that they thought was divine or like god.

They ruled for a long time because people they see a god, they think a man is god as long as they work for power in the international scene or in the world they will survive for a long time.


SPAIN ISLAMIC SOCIETY 

The only clean government that I know have that kind of longevity is the one we know of in the history of Spain, the Moors, the Moors brought Islam from Africa to Spain and it stayed strong there for 500 yrs and actually stayed there for 700 yrs that a long time. But for 500 yrs it was a very strong Islamic society. They had good and bad leaders there, but Islam had been established so strongly in the intellectual circles and in the people that it lasted there for 500 solid Islamic years, That's wonderful a political miracle almost and this government is doing the same thing now, this government is going into its third century as survival as a government intact.

So enshaa Allah we will be able to build our future here I this system that has proven itself that it has strength and longevity, but understand the nature of this system its a must for our leadership, it s not a must for all of us its a must only for the leadership.

The leadership we preserve the future with the help and Guidance of G'd and His Mercy to us, we're the one to preserve the future we pass the future from ourselves to the next generation and if we don't take it upon ourselves that responsibility to protect the future of Islam in America , its community vision, if we don't accept that brother Imams as our responsibility to build it strengthen it to make every contribution that we can make to it to improve it get it to go closer to where Allah wants it following the way of His Prophet.

Leader next generation 

If we don't do that and work hard to see that that goes to another good faithful person before we die, you have to see that that goes to another good faithful intelligent person that they feel that same commitment that you feel. This is not one man's job this is all of job, we are to look where is that person is he in my family among my sons among my friends, search for that person and when you find him; if you know that you are superior to him in the knowledge give him your support, if you know that he's superior to you in knowledge give him your support. That's the way the civilized world exists and preserves itself and G'd is with that, G'd loves that.

This logic we call the logic of the west its not just America its more America has it in its purest form but you have resemblance of it in all the west, especially in Europe. And the logic is though its slightly different in Europe.


FREEDOM

The logic in America is this, that this is Freedom and freedom is the most precious thing. And the government of America is designed to give and protect the maximum amount of freedom for its citizens so this rule we're talking about now is a rule that wants to maximize freedom for all of its citizens.

And if it wasn't for the commitment to G'd which is there, this government is committed to G'd, don't think its not because they talk about separation of church and state, but that's not all of it this government is committed to G'd to be a G'd-fearing government to protect a G'd fearing society.   The government is committed to that and more and more now this is the day of religion you're going to see our government in a role that may make a lot of its citizens question is that constitutional, does the constitution permit the President to do what he's doing and say what he's saying, they're going to be questioning it. But the government is on solid ground and so far it haven't been no real disturbance, there have been questions.

This government was formed not only to advance preserve and protect freedom but also; don't get that confused with freedom and democracy they're two different things though they are close together. This government is also committed to keep faithful to G'd and the introduction to the constitution of these united states which carried the words of the founding fathers these words are very heavy and they cannot be removed.


G'D CREATOR NOT G'D SON 

We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal and are endowed by their Creator this is the basis for this society so in the basis the first fundamental truths that this society built itself upon is the recognition of G'd the Creator not G'd the son no G'd the Creator you see. So thafs why Presidents like Thomas Jefferson who was the main the strongest finger writing the framing the constitution.

The strongest pen was the pen of Thomas Jefferson not Benjamin Franklin and he said



Imam Plemon El-amin

SHURAA BAYNAHUM DEMOCRACY WOMEN 

Q. 3:159; 42:38; Mutual consultation 
Q. 58;   the woman who complains 

What democracy means for this society for maybe slight differences Shuraa Baynahum mean for us consulting each other the best of minds and character consulting each other and when there is a matter that the community has to address that may affect the community in a serious way those men of best mind and character should sit down and consult each other and even the women not that we should mix the two, we don't mix the two but we accept, admit the concerns of women and the demands of women. Its in the Quran Al Mujaadilah the woman who complains its there representing all women who may have complaints and it s was the way of the leadership of our Prophet and1 the time after him under the great leaders, companions it was the habit of the men to not only listen to women but sometimes hint that we need your advise or to ask their advise.

And they would speak out in the public in church its not that popular in fact its very unpopular I don't think the quote this they say the woman's voice should not be heard in the public. Mean in the congregation, to me in the public she should speak quietly in private. This was not the case in the time of our prophet or after; the women were encouraged to speak up and they did and we have on record women questioning great rulers in the public place and getting them to acknowledge the issue or the complaint and address it. We have on record that the ruler admitted that he was in error cause a woman brought him to account.

In this America only thing that can hurt us now this community, this association of Muslims that I with is old bad habits from the past and mostly from the Nation of Islam, those bad habits are so deeply ingrained in some of us that we don't know we are still marching to the cadence of the old captains and lieutenant s, we have to break from those habits and live consciously.


MUSLIM CONSCIOUS NOT HABIT 

A Muslim's life is a conscious life, the life is the Word of G'd the real life. And that life is a conscious life, we have to live consciously not by habit live consciously it improves habit; this is the meaning of greeting to the right As salaam alaikum and then to the left.
If you establish the conscious life in peace it will take care of the unconscious life.


TASLEEM RIGHT 

Behavior Habits 

then you turn to the left, where it going to come from what's going to improve my habit life, improve my unconscious behavior? Its my conscious behavior, if you want to strengthen the behavior in a person build their conscious behavior and that will strengthen their unconscious behavior. And after a while the conscious behavior becomes the unconscious behavior, that's how it works.


LEFT

The mistake in the religious world to think to the left you have to give life to the right, no that's how it comes in the beginning, G'd made us in the beginning knowing nothing but He put in our bodies, we inherit human intelligence and human soul and behavior we inherit that. So the baby comes here with the life of the left and the baby becomes strong upon the life of the left, then we educate the baby and then the babies life becomes the conscious life and the baby's left becomes a left created by the right.



Q. 4:43;   Not approach pray with befog mind 

Forth Hadith #1 p. 26;   Matters by Intention

In Islam we strengthen the right and we know the right will take care of the left, so don't live by your habits, you may say isn't prayer a habit? Yes but its supposed to be a conscious habit, conscious devotion, even dhikr conscious devotion everything , every gesture in prayer is conscious devotion if you're not conscious of it then it doesn't register on your account with G'd If you pray by habit your Prayer does not register with G'd on your account.


HABIT / RIGHT

So its conscious behavior we say neyyah before wudu, salat, you have to say I intend to do this saying this make it conscious. That means it doesn't count unless its registered on your conscience, this is building the right to preserve the whole life, the left and the whole life.

If you do that and practice that you will get rid of old habits in the past that interferes with your growth as a Muslim in the real life. So look in the mirror at yourself sometimes and say who do I see, do I see captain John?


LOGIC PLACE FOR SATAN

So the logic is very peculiar its the logic to protect, preserve and increase freedom for the people and maximize it as much as possible and its also a logic that has a place for satan. this is where is unlslamic we have not place for satan.

In this logic I'm talking about America but I told you all the west have a bit of it in some form.


Heb. 2:14;
Prov. 18:21; Life and death
Rev. 20:2, 7; Bind Release satan

How does it protect satan? I have to go back to the bible where it all comes from. The
bible says that the inheritors of Christ Jesus not Islam, also inherits the power over life
and death.   The power to even bind satan and also release him why would they need
the power to release him? If they bind him he should stay bound forever.

Q. 2:79;   Change scripture with own hands


SOCIETY FALL GREECE

If this is in the bible this must also be in this Christian society so we see the society going to hell, where was it copied from? Greece, not from Jesus he did not bring them that, it was introduced and charged to Jesus   so now everybody will stand their grounds and die defending that Jesus brought that, because now its in the bible and Allah says they write with their own hands say this is from Allah.

Its from ancient Greece. Heliopolis that was the rule there if civilized order got into trouble and the people got impatient with it and it was threatened to be its life was threatened it was going to be overthrown by the public...

Society fall rise 

Uncivilized behavior, and they would promote the uncivilized behavior to get the control over the people again and after the people got in so much trouble that it awakens the alarms the intelligence of the people that didn't want to down in the hell with the society the people come up and start protesting against it when they protest strong enough then the leaders of this know now its time to shift it back to the pedestal of civilization.

This was not only the way of Heliopolis but it is famous for it many nations have survived using that seesaw thing, now its the time for morality, now its not, that's how they rule the people. They keep the rule preserve the rule like that and its in this peculiar order we call democracy in America, we just seen the society go to the far extreme, allowing unconscious behavior, disrespect for sacred matters, unconscious behavior was released to go free, let it all hang out. And they have their language its in the culture and the government won't interfere with it, they all decide when its time.


John 16:7; Expedient 1 go away 
Matt 12:24; Cast devil name Beelzebub 


COMMERCIAL ORDER ACT SATAN 

Who really executes it? The commercial '. order executes it so here is a commercial order acting in the role of satan himself to bring on the moral destruction of the society and the government will say hands off let them do it its time its expedient that he goes away = the moral life its expedient that he goes away. For if he does not go away the comforter will not come unto them, so they recognize that and they let it go and the stupid church order do nothing but look at it and wonder what's happening and just scream holler and moan, but the real learned ones in the leadership in the Christianity they look at it too say leave it alone don't bother it don't mess with it, it has to be, its time for it. And it happens And satan has his freedom and then they come with the logic of Heliopolis and they get the control again and they say that this is a victory for Christ, Christ is back he has returned. Who's sending him away and bringing him back? In the name of satan just like the old testament say and they do these thing in the name of Beelzebub.

Same old game the only thing that keeps it. saves it is that people are committed to G'd and their life is for G'd in the order of establishment in the government, in the church leadership, they're for G'd, but they have what we know in Islam they have gone astray not intentionally; they have made an error. This is the error of Christianity that they think that this way of governing is the way that G'd wanted and that Q'd sent this knowledge to them he didn't it came from the world. G'd didn't send that didn't intend that.


Q. 5:3; This dav I have chosen for you Islam 
Q. 61:9; Proclaim Islam though polytheist averse to it 
Islam G'd's choice

Islam is growing the leader in the world and its going to continue to grow and its because Islam is G'd's choice not that He rejects Christianity the Christian public, no. Islam is His choice that why it put that way in the Qur'an this day I have chosen for you Islam, He didn't say I'm going to get rid of these other religions, oh yes He did He said that this religion shall become the dominant religion though the heathen protest it. Or hates it but the word for predominance means just what have happened already that Islam shall become the most visible religion.


ISLAM IS THAHARA MEANS VISIBLE 

I just doesn't just mean in numbers it means the most visible religion see it comes from the word [yathhar] means to appear to be visible [thahara] the Arabic professors and students yathru it shall appear it shall become the most apparent religion, most visible
why? Because most these other religions are religion in faith but not in practice the emphasis in our religion is on works which was the message of the prophets including Jesus, they have no works no account Faith without works are dead letters this is not Islam this was Christianity.

But our Religion is really given to us from G'd and we have it preserved for us pure in the Qur'an our Religion in its order or design to make that happen.

Our prayer is visible, our Hajjis visible our charity must be visible, our charity is not to be given and kept up in some elite quarters making some hierarchy rich. Its suppose to be dispersed into the community so that the community grows as the charity grows. So our charity also is to be seen, seen in better schools, better masjids, better business life for the community not for the individual business person, for him yes, but he is just a step to the real thing and that is a better business life for the community.

This is the way of America too you just can't make a whole lot of money and not give back to the community any more, too much pressure will be on you, they say what are you giving back to the community? Our shahadah is to be seen, who heard your shahada, who witnessed your shahada?
After you say it with your mouth, your behavior should say La elah illah.

Your salat is visible we cannot make our silent salat everybody know what we're doing when we pray, if they don't they'll sure find out because its a theater that arouses curiosity and that's positive that's not negative.

Q. 97:5; Peace until rising of day 
Forty Hadith #3 p. 34. Islam built on five

We're talking about the foundation that holds our life up Buniyal Islaamu lalaa khamsen. The prophet would do it after pray until it got light, peace it is until the rising of the dawn, in that hour of peace we take advantage of it and strengthen ourselves to reconstitute our life, make it stronger, like tying a knot again.


Q. 3:103; Hold on to Rope of Allah 

I seen people tie a knot make it very tight after a while he looks back at that knot and go to it again make sure that know going to hold. And the rope that G'd give us is long enough to tie up even-thing that we'll ever experience that needs a knot.

Matt. 27:46-50; Jesus ninth hour 

Here we have this peculiar logic, but this logic is one logic only, the logic of expedience in the 9th hour that's the hour of expedience isn't it? In the 9th hour they said it is expedient that we do these things , he said its expedient that I go away new testament and said they hung him in ninth hour, that critical in the eleventh hour he died. There are many interpretations. What happened in the 10th hour? He was dying.

9th = birth social consciousness 

The ninth hour is social consciousness you don't have to write it, if I were you something this important I wouldn't even trust the pen the paper begins to be lost. The ninth hour is birth for the social life and how do they take it? From everything that G'd made that's where they get everything from so expect a baby to be delivered in the ninth month, ninth hour is for the birth of the person into a social order.

The baby is born into a social order we the family after nine months of being concealed it comes free born they adopt this language in the language of what they call scripture rule really; this is the language of rule and I'm speaking to my associates I don't talk to others like this and you shouldn't either.

I John 5:6; Come by water and blood

9th Hajj

Do we have that same line? Yes on the ninth day of Hajj the most important day of
Hajj is ninth you can miss other days but if you miss that day Prophet Muhammad he
said the whole Hajj is missed. The ninth hour is in Islam too we have our nine as ninth day of Hajj.
What they going to do on ninth hour (rulers)? They're going to sacrifice the social life and
when you sacrifice the social life you sacrifice morality because the come together, I come not of water only but of water and blood.
The two come together, the same thing is said in Islam, how is it said?

Q.
Made you male and female
Q. 3:195; Made you one form the other 
Q. 4:1; Created from one soul 
Water = spiritual blood = social 
G'd has created you male and female mates

In two's so this is the two. you're not one you're not social and not spiritual, not spiritual and not social If you do that you lose your life, lose your identity the only way you keep a human identity you have to remain both water and blood, spirituality and social life; you have to have both if not you're not a human, you put the two together you got a man and a woman because He made us both the same of one nature, or of one soul.

Male Female one soul 

And in the soul is both the dhakara and the untha the male and the female and He cause
them to come from the one soul and become parents and populate the world
but the parent cannot keep the world if they remain separate the male and female have to
form a union in order to keep their own life so are they really one separate from the
other?


THIS MY BETTER HALF

In the reality that G'd mad for them they are one when they come together and they're halves when they are apart and we say my better half. If this is my better half then what am I saying of myself, I'm saying I'm only a half and a whole person is only when I see a male and female going together.


ADAM

We know the man Adam is a whole person unto himself but not in physical, biological life but in his soul, in his soul he's a whole person and his soul was given in union with the woman right?  


Male X   Female XY 

And then male and female came out separately came distinct from each other and
there is the male principle and female principle existing separate from the other but really the female principle not like the West, female X chromosome male XY chromosome this is symbolism its science when the doctors apply it Its symbolism when the esoteric is applying it, its symbolism.

So I'm XY she XX no, I'm XY she's XY all of us are XY in her is male and female and in me male and female but her physiology is female" therefore her whole self is expressed through a female body and my whole self is expressed through a male body so we get to distinct.


HOMOSEXUAL 

Here is G'd creates a soul that contains both but a body that expresses one so we have a soul that contains the two and the body express the one. That's how come the homosexual can be convinced he's a female. And you can't change his mind he needs to know himself better so he can protect himself better, keep his masculinity.

We are social and spiritual beings essentially what makes us political beings? See start with that is the core of life and the core of life will explain everything else. What makes us political beings if G'd has made us really social and spiritual beings?

It is the need in the social spiritual life it will grow and become big and the bigger it becomes in numbers the more we're aware we need some kind of government, we need to have this governed for the good of all, so what requisitions government or politics? My social nature and business and the control of the business traffic etc everything by that.


John 17:5;   Before the World I am 

That's why it says before the world was I am and we think it means before the sun moon and stars was it doesn't mean that, its talking about the world of man, before the world of man I existed mean that the world of was really built upon me and I'm speaking of me as a common life. And that's the social life and the spiritual life G'd made the social life and the spiritual life and everything else was requisitioned by that.



Crucify sacrifice Innocent So what do we do in the ninth hour, their logic says in the ninth hour it becomes very critical we have to sacrifice someone, who we going to sacrifice9 Sacrifice the innocent, he was created to be sacrificed, so sacrifice the innocent that's his role in the preservation of government to come in and make it strong and go out so it can be born again on his death.

On the ninth day what do we do when we're threatened? We get together as community leaders upon the social order don't you know Ummah it means a social order, its a fraternity, brotherhood isn't it that's a social order, the Islamic social order this is not new language for me.

This is the governments of Islam they recognize that but its a social spiritual order where they go wrong they take thing into their own hands and they start coming from their own intelligence their own ideas and they write some kind of constitution for an Islamic state. The constitution for the Islamic state is the Qur'an and the expression of that in the life of Muhammad the Prophet   And that's why the government of Saudi Arabia it is more Islamic than any other that we know of right now, at least in adhering to the constitution for Muslim states, that's the Qur'an and Prophet Muhammad's expression of Qur'an. But the only thing their rule is unIslamic, electing the officials to rule is unIslamic they elect officials to rule from blood lineage, that's unIslamic, it can't be from family it has to be from anyone who qualifies in the public like it is here in this democracy.

So they got something very unIslamic over there and they know it I said it to them I'm not the only one, the Muslim world is saying that but the Muslim world don't make a big issue of it and we shouldn't either, we don't want to give our enemies an advantage over us that will hurt us in the future, weaken us .

So we don't come out in the public and start pointing at Saudi Arabia order of gov we go to them that's our brother and talk to them or to the Saudi embassy in Washington and talk to them, but we talk to ourselves. If anything is wrong in the Islamic world we have to discuss it right here Shuraa, the convener is right there, this is Shuraa. Whenever we meet and its an opportunity for Shuraa if there issues that deserve being addressed we address those issues.

So you sitting here now and you say when we meet with brother Imam 4.5. or 7 or whatever number that the Shuraa convenes yes that is a formal convening of the Shuraa but this is Shuraa. anytime we meet and we discuss serious matters and come up with a judgement a solution for it, its Shuraa and whether you're having exchange with me or not its Shuraa you're having a silent exchange. You're saying yes well the Imam has something here or the Imam's point should be discussed further or the Imam is wrong that's Shuraa taking place silently now it won't take effect until you go out and act on what you're thinking.

And the intelligent thing would be if you don't feel that this matter was settled today, this morning the intelligent thing to do is pass a request to the convener of the Shuraa and ask him to convene the Shuraa and come up with a resolution or the statement that the Imam made that will show what the position of this community is regarding the legitimacy of the government of Saudi Arabia, that's big business and you all are qualified for big business whether you know it or not.

Q. 49:12;   Like eat flesh dead brother 

Bukhari 2:795-8; 3:299,316;

Blood, property sacred

Ninth Day Haij 

The ninth day of Hajj is the most precious day of Hajj so what is G'd telling us through His Prophet? He's telling us that the sacred life is the social community life, the blood of your brother is sacred can't violate it, his property, his honor is sacred don't defame him don't falsely present him to the world because if you take him out of his true image and falsely present him to others its like eating the flesh of your dead brother. Like eating carrion in the Qur'an we have to understand the sacred matter, the blood of the social life is the sacred life but its sacred only when it is conforming to the Will of G'd, when its under Islam, the Qur'an and the guidance of Prophet Muhammad when we're obeying Allah and His messenger that life is sacred.

Q. 96:1-4; Read in name of your Lord 

Q. 31:20; Subjected to you all in heavens and earth 

Sky = spiritual Earth = material

The life of the Ummah is essentially a spiritual and social life blood and water and its future is what?   Education, we educate that life and then that life has a future in a real world Allah order for man. [ sakhkhara lakum maa fis samawate wa ma fel arde] that He has made to be of utility for you whatever is in the skies and whatever is in the earth and He give you your supplies or He supplies your needs from the skies and from the earth, spiritual material


Q. 23:38; Get down from here 

Q. 20:55; Earth life, die, resurrected 

He said to them get down from here into the earth where you will find your livelihood there you will be gathered and there you will die and form there you be raise to life again.

Q. 17:95; If angel on earth would sent 

The water was above wasn't it and the water came down to the earth, get you down from here I didn't make you to be a half person I made you to be a whole person so get down from this spiritual realm thinking you are saints and angels if G'd had made this earth to be populated by angels He would have sent you an angel as a messenger and make sajdah on the earth that I have spread out like a carpet and made it to be . A place of rest and comforts you won't find rest up there you'll be tormented forever come on down here to your birth place your native place.

You were conceived in heaven formed in the earth, conceived in heaven up there no form a concept without form come on down from there into the earth where you will find your livelihood and there you will be gathered a social body, the collective body is the social body there you will be gathered, form a social unit.

Death no Word Resurrect Word There you will die without My Word you going to die but My Word is going to come to you and raise you back up to life.

Problems Ummah

On the ninth day we don't sacrifice the innocent we bring the strength of our minds and our character together the best of our leaders meet and we discuss the problems of the international community of Muslims and decide there what we're going to do and the problem is always when you have trouble is that you're not properly responding to the Call of G'd. That's the only thing that brings problems

Q. 104:1 By the time man is lost

We know where to find the trouble immorality is running rampant respect for the sacred is going away our order is in crisis, do they believe?   [amina billah vva rasule] do they believe in Allah and His messenger" Is that firm?   Are they attracted to doing good deeds?   Are they cooperating with each other for the advancement of truth, Al Haqq, are they strengthening each other upon perseverance until they achieve the goal, are they doing that?

If they're not this is what we have to strengthen in the society of the Muslims we're not going to sacrifice the innocent we going to draw our swords out if we have to and enforce the principles of Islam if we have to.

Rev 14:20;   Blood up to horse bridle 

Isa 63:3-6; Garment blood stained 

Even their gospel tells them that that expedience was just for a time to get them past the pagan era into the era of G'd. Cause it says when he comes back he's going to go to war, aint going to come back to be sacrificed he's coming back to-enforce the way of G'd. He's going to be dressed for war and his weapon going to be drawn he going to slay the wicked until the blood come up to horses bridle.

Garments blood stained the blood of the wicked that's a pagan scene they didn't have to stretch it that far.


The logic in Islam how is it just these five principles going to constitute a whole logic for building our Islamic society in America? G'd says [buniyal Islamu ila khamsen] whatever Muhammad said G'd said it through him I speak nothing of myself G'd gave him the Guidance or inspired him by why of Divine Inspiration and many of the hadiths are judge by the scholars ... to be inspired hadiths almost like Qur'an it was on the level of wahy or Revelation and though it was not the Qur'an on that great level by Jibreel it was inspired to by G'd to Muhammad.

If he said it, a lot of it wasn't said by him, its corrupt hadiths or false hadiths if he said it has its support, likeness, find resemblance of it in Qur'an has its support there and G'd directed him to say that. These five pillars of Islam ... he said Islam is structured upon five then the basis for Islam is five we know those five.

If Allah guide's Muhammad to tell us that the basis for Islam is five should our community be established upon any other basis than that?  That wouldn't be logic our religion is supported upon five principles and we going to say an Islamic community going to be supported by something else, it must be supported by five essential shahada, salat zakat, saum in Ramadan and Hajj.

How do we apply this now to the community, that's the work let the bright minds good minds come together how do we build this community so that this community says to everybody that look at it la elah illah how do we build this community when people look at this community they see a prayful community in prayer worshiping their Lord Creator of everything.

Wealth no hand few 

Q. 59:7;
Allah says don't let your wealth stay in a circle, keep going around the circle of a few so its not dispensed throughout the community so the whole community benefits form the wealth so we know that this is a social community requiring that the social life of the community be supported by the wealth of the community and it is the community based upon work or effort not just lip service.


WELFARE

So we want to increase the number of our working people to the biggest number possible we want to see that our people will have work. The government is to come when only the people throw up their hand and say we done all we can we need help from you now, when the gov comes in that's help from everybody the whole united states all the tax payers and everything. We don't want to do that throw up our hands when there's still room for us to work we haven't done all the work that there's room for.

We're Muslims first not Americans in any Christian that knows his Christianity he's a Christian first not an American first. Don't be spooked up ... if you give this head to G'd you won't need an Excedrin.

There should be team work and the better minds should form team work working with the shuraa, the leadership and let come dome from the Shuraa let the work be spread out all over the community these united states. We're working on applying the five principles of Islam to get the benefits G'd intended for our community life on this earth.
When I'm out speaking to the American public I am.


USA constitution Christian nation 

I agree the concept for this society how its to live and be governed founded upon Christian idea but the Christian idea is an idea that's common to civilized societies all over the world . We're not talking about Trinitarianism its not founded upon Trinitarianism it was founded upon the belief in G'd the Father as the Creator not as the father of a man or a prophet, not founded upon Jesus Christ is the son of G'd not founded upon that not at all.

The founding fathers very wisely and very delicately avoided that language so that wouldn't be a problem for the future of this country, admit to them it was founded upon the Christian principle and ideas but those ideas that we have in common as people of the Book, the scripture that came from G'd to His prophets and messengers and that we also identify with the religious support that is in the language that is in the designing of the framework for this society, government we identify with that language we have no differences with it at all, its perfectly Islamic. If anybody can tell me on this floor tell me cause I want to be right

Q. 87:2;

We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal G'd says khalqa fa sauwaa He created then He establishes equality He created then established equality so the equality had to come after creation, there was not equality before creation, so the creation provided for the equality.

Q. 26:78; Created me guide me 

The prophet when he was questioned by the disbeliever who was ruling powerful disbeliever he said sayhedene the One who created me shall guide me what is He saying?   He's saying that my guidance is given to me in the constitution of my life and that's what nobody understands but the high up , in the scholarship, the scholars that G'd is saying that.
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That's on the first baby level of understanding that He created us the same G'd that created us is in authority to guide us but there's a logic there is not only giving a statement but logic. And the logic is that when G'd created you He constituted you so that you have inherently the logic for your guidance your life.


QURAN IN SELF 

Nobody could pull that out of us because nobody put it in us but the Creator and when He pulled it out of us what did He pull out? The Qur'an now here is the guidance for your life that I really created for you to have this is your inheritance this is not something imposed by G'd upon your life, this is your birth right. The same G'd that created you now brings the light out of your body so you could see the light that you were created to live by its the Our'an. the Word of G'd is also you.
But you can't see the Word of G'd unless G'd reveal out of you. His Word.

Now if what I say its correct it stands up everywhere now you test it if you have problems take it to somebody higher than you, have them test it if you still have problems tell him to take it so somebody higher than them and you'll get high enough and you'll be satisfied.

Question: I been wanting to ask this question for the longest, many times we say we read in Qur'an where Allah protects the Qur'an .

Yes. angels protect it

You mentioned hadith Qudsi can we say the authentic hadiths has been protected?

I would say so yes, the authentic hadiths are protected and they will be protected.

Question: I was looking at the papers here in Chicago and the headlines say right here in cook county there is over 233,000 had core substance abusers my question is , as an Ummah, an association can we have the that are attracted to Islam come to Islam and
come to us and enter into Shuraa with us seeking aid for that particular problem should we allow them to enter Shuraa with us and assist them to relieve or should we leave those persons alone________


Drug abusers consultation and Shuraa 

Alright I think I have the question... No we can listen to them and respect their knowledge and opinions and even admit some of their I would say input or advise but that wouldn't in may opinion be called a Shuraa. Consultation as a general term is not necessarily Shuraa, once we put the term Shuraa with it then we identify with is which says that this is conducted in an Islamic way and what's happening here is approved by Islam and will come out an Islamic product so we can't say these discussions with others outside Islam is shuraa no we shouldn't say that that's not Shuraa.

We should be aware of drugs as a serious matter threatening the good life of this society and we should have some plan to counter the increase in drug traffic and problems that we have because of substance abuse, but sometimes to me our best efforts won't be our efforts that involves us with drug users or person devoted only or principally to addressing drug problems.

Our best work will come from us building the Islamic community life. That's the best way to counter the threat from drug, substance abuse, the best way to counter it is to build the Islamic life., it'll be free of that poison and our model will be a healing agent in the environment of America, that 4s the best war against drugs we can possibly
come up with.

Question: Brother Imam and Imams On the question the brother asked on which the country was based L>n as far as Christianity I want to let him know that there's a book out?_________On the alter of G*d and its a religious biography of Thomas Jefferson and I think all the Imams should get it and read it and in this book he taught against the Trinitarian doctrine he called it abra kadabra he said its no way you can get three into one and one into three and reading the book one would say you wrote the book.

WDM) No I didn't write it because I would say you can get three into one but you'll come out with fractions. I would like to acknowledge at this time that the information that I receive was not just from Imam Plemon it was also from Imam Idris and very helpful information he shared with me.

Question: Last night when we were in Shuraa I asked a question about using the Muslim American Society in our city we have believers who took the name Muslim American Society in Baltimore so I want to know how should we approach that as a whole community I think its going to be a conflict in the future they couldn't answer the question last night they said they're going to take it back since we got you here maybe you can answer it. 

Yes, well my understanding is that we agreed to be identified as the Muslim American Society that's how we identify mainly for the purpose of helping others refer to us by a name. They were making us aware of the problem that we need to give them a name that they could refer to all of us by. What we want more than a name that identify us all as one association is Islamic freedom so that we all can grow and not come under the restriction from particular area locale or particular leader in our community but be free to grow as Muslims.

I don't want any of you all to think you have to grown in the confines that I make for you if you can go beyond those confines do it but grow good way in accordance with the guidance of G'd. If you can go beyond the boundaries that you think I have set, go beyond those boundaries So my interest is giving us complete freedom to grow as Muslims that's why I don't like too much organization for the whole of us. The organization should be concentrated locally not nationally not centrally.

So this name permits us so when anybody asks well what, there are many Muslims there are Shites, sunni, Arabs, Indians all these what is the name of your group? Tell them we are the Muslim American Society.

But that doesn't mean we hang a sign up all up over the neighborhood that's not what's that's for I think if you go that way you're causing a problem because the name is not more important than the essence and our life and our works of building the community so we don't want MAS on everything, no We want that language for communication with non-Muslims more than we want it four ourselves we don't need it, is that clear?


Question There are those who think that that this association that it is more appropriate for them to identify themselves as American Muslims and not Muslim American .

Soul register

Yes, well Allah created us if our intentions are good Allah has created us so that our souls will register something that's not approved by G'd or something that is not as good as G'd would like for it to be in us so in years behind me I used the expression American Muslim but when I would use it something inside was kind disturbed didn't quite please me inside.

Why because we're describing the Muslim life with the American life, we're putting the .American life as a description of our Muslim life when our Muslim life should be defining and describing our American life, So the expression for me is Muslim American over American Muslim. The brother may have more to say a follow up question or is there a comment he would like to make?

They said that because of what you just said that we are Muslims first and they were going by grammar they were saying its more grammatically correct to say American Muslim. 


Well I took college grammar I passed it and I know that really when it comes to grammar it comes from organization they decide in these organizations what's proper and improper and they all don't agree so there is disagreement as to what is proper and improper on the highest level. And for most of us the modifier says what the label is.

So what kind of Muslim is this American Muslim what kind of American is this? Muslim American I don't have to discuss that further, we don't want to be Americanized against our Islamic content we want Muslims to govern our Islamic American content, Muslim should govern the American content not the other way around.

Question: In regards to what you mentioned about female is it appropriate to have females apart of the Shuraa.


WOMEN SHURAA

Its appropriate in fact its an obligation to recognize the voice of females in the Shuraa but to have the two bodies as one is not acceptable I don't think so sister should have their Shuraa and their Shuraa should be in support of the Shuraa of the Muslim men and their Shuraa can be formed to give assistance in the form of well meaning positive criticism too as well as support for it.

The sisters should be seen as a governing unit to themselves under the Quran Muhammad and the Shuraa of the learned people of good character. And their contribution to the Shuraa should be respected as though it came from a man we shouldn't look at it as gender we should respect what they have to offer as though it came from a brother, a man.

Question: As we teach people this deen from your Qur'an expression from the prophet and from you great wisdom the issue comes up how to we present you to these people, how do we explain your role, do we tell them you're Christ ?

I have had that problem myself and I have to say that the way I solved for my comfort my uniqueness, distinction is really owing to my very special circumstances that I had in my life. And the best way to present me as a product of you, of our life, history trials and tribulations our life of sufferings and life of human excellence has produced a son among us Imam W. Deen Muhammad and I'd like for you to get to know our leader.

Question: We can use better hospitality in the masjid and the masjids are not use as a

Argue Masjid

Islam is the rights of opinion, its competition but Islam is not bitter rivalry its against Islam and anytime we see bitter rivalry developing in the masjid or anywhere especially in the masjid we should say Allahu Akbar this cannot happen here. You brothers have to come to speak to each other with respect for each other not in anger. This is no place for you all to be competing for power here or recognition that's the duty of all members in the body to set the alarm when you see that developing and ask that it be stopped immediately and say if it s not stopped we're going to overcome you or you're going to overcome us. Don't be afraid to stand up for serious matters.

Question We visited Malaysia last year and with the current economic problems is there any way our community can gain economic progress with Malaysia while___trying to
build a better relationship with the country?

Asian economic problem 

Yes, I thought about that since I heard of the problem not only but the Asian economy lot of them have some serious problems, but it may not be as serious as it looks on the surface they will be able to regroup and come up with different strategy. Malaysia going to be strong Indonesia going to be strong the Asian countries will still be strong economically I don't see it as really a threat to their establishment of these countries but its a time of serious trouble for them .

This is a chess game of international power brokers who are always trying to get more power for themselves to the loss,  disadvantage of others. And they see themselves in blocks. Western, Asian, Muslim Islamic nations will be in a special block the Islamic block is looked at separately from the Asian block because you have people who want to see Islam contained or defeated in high places so you'll have them looking at the Islamic block how can we defeat their economic growth of the Islamic world how can we get them off course so they're doing this.

So this is a good time I think for us to restate our interest in having a powerful practical friendship with the Malaysian gov and its people. This young man is qualified to be our ambassador to carry the Message to the Iranian gov that our community met the leaders met on this day in Harvey, Il Chicago area and the body of men through our leader sent a message to the Malaysian gov't that we want them to know we're still strongly interested in having a real joint venture with them to strengthen our institutions of learning to help us develop them and strengthen them. For the future and also build a Muslim community economy with their input and some joint ventures with them. Will you take this message brother? Thank you very much.


Question: I been invited to a local synagogue in Fayetville on Jewish Muslim relations and I want to know from your perception what would be the best way to address that considering that for one thing I know the rabbi is learned a scholar in his own right and also considering that.


JEW MUSLIM RELATIONS

Well in the Qur'an the Jews are cast in the best light, you're inviting me to express to you what I feel may be the best way to address that. The way I always address it is like this but I'm going to give you something else, I do it subtly if you feel the audience is not too stiff do this, tell them the most critical people of the Jews are the Jews Qur'an is not near as harsh in criticizing the Jews as the Jews have been our the life of your history.

Q. 3: 113-114; Some people of book believe

What important for us in our relationship with Jews ... is that G'd tells us of you that among you is a group committed to faith in G'd and the promotion of fair justice and fair dealing among men of the world and that's the strong invitation from G'd to us in our Holy book to have some meaningful ties with you, because G'd ask us to say let there be out of you a group believing in G'd and promoting justice and fair dealing in the world.
God has called you and us to do the same. On the world scene there is room for common grounds in unity and promoting to promote this peace and justice for all people of the world.

Question: I like to say I commend you on this article in the Muslim journal questions and answers my son is 15 yrs old he takes that to school, he looks for that, he shows it at the dinner table sometimes in the morning that's a big spark.

That makes us feel very good to hear that from you and that's the way we feel about it that's not my idea I'm just answering a request that was made brother Imam Omar
Shaheed of Columbia south Carolina he brought it to me and he had already met with a few others and asked for their participation so its mainly work they had done by Imam from Columbia with two or three other brothers that are working with him, I know Pasha of Atlanta is a key person working with bro Imam Omar shaheed. they're doing a very beautiful job and Allah is blessing me to work with them.

Farakhan 

Question: Min. Louis Farakhan

Yes, this is good these are very important matters, these are the matters we should address when we are together like this so that the whole community be consistently respond in the same way to these issues. In my opinion the best way to deal with or treat the popularity of Min Farakhan is to keep it out of our language unless we are force to admit it into our language and if we are forced to address to him let us do it as briefly as possible, don't spend no more than a half of minute or a few seconds on it, forget about it because our enemies want to burden our efforts and want to dilute our works.

So if we take up Farakhan as an issue that ties up our energies takes form our efforts and dilutes our word and also interferes with our spirit. He's not fresh air in the room of our spirit so be aware might be innocent people bring up Farakhan and it might be guilty persons bringing up Farakhan so let us be aware of that. Lets not come to a conclusion that this person is an enemy bringing up Farakhan let us not dismiss the possibility that that person might be an enemy.

Question: This is a burning question I've had and I resolved I wasn't gonna raise it what are you felling about peace in the masjid there are those who associate with us who subtly and sometimes openly disagree with your tafsir and your direction bothers me to know that there are people who are working against you and us in some place they have actually taken over in masajid that we built, we all know what are immediate impulse to do you said thing to me directly and to us generally to say you can't do that;l so what can we do?

Muslimah the liar

I can only tell you what my concerns are and then you have to be responsible for your own self and your actions. Islam permits people to have their own opinions to differ with us Prophet Muhammad was challenged by a man who was so much convinced that he was shrewd that he thought that he could even deceive the prophet himself. He underestimated the seriousness of the prophet and acuity of the prophet and he wrote him a letter saying from Musalimah the messenger of G'd to Muhammad the messenger of G'd and let us share this you take your part and I take my part I'm just giving you my words . Did the prophet say my companions go and kill this man? He let his pen do the job didn't even bother the companions with is he wrote him back from Muhammd the messenger of G'd to Musalimah the liar.

With that you all have to be very firm in condemning these people but don't act violently against them if they can take a following they are only taking their liars followers of the liars. I like to stop right here while its still good spirit and a lot of questions.


